The unmasking of ecological overshoot is likely to force everyone fighting to have or take or keep their ecological niches. So far big money is winning. It only ends when the extra overshoot has been eliminated, or the carrying capacity has been enlarged, for the survivors. Human warfare has too many elements of reducing the infrastructure and carrying capacity used by their opponents, and also other species, so warfare, and states behaviour are going to be very destructive on the “decline”. Only good news for nature , for all other species, is that our decline might be faster than we expect. Progress into overshoot has been partly created by fear of the decline phase. Fear of collapse makes overshoot and collapse inevitable.